November 8, 2000 Minutes - Trails and Sidewalks Committee


MEMBERS ATTENDING: Ann Bennett (At-Large), Bunyan Bryant (Mason), Don Emerson (Providence) Walter Brodtman (WABA), Joan Edwards (Clifton Horse Society), Michael Shannon (Springfield), Kevin Brugman (Mount Vernon), Tony Matos (Lee), Bruce Wright (Hunter Mill), Bill Niedringhaus (Dranesville), Chet McLaren (Braddock), Deborah Leser (Sully), Jenny Pate and Karen Lanham (FCPA),

STAFF ATTENDING: Sheng-Jieh Leu, and David Marshall, DPZ

Chairman Michael Shannon called the meeting to order at 7:40 PM.

MINUTES: The minutes were approved unanimously with one correction: the omitted word "asked" in Paragraph 2 of the section on the Trail Plan Review. The motion was made by Mr. Wright and seconded by Mr. Brodtman.

TRAIL PLAN REVIEW: Mr. Shannon discussed with Mr. Marshall the plan for the December meeting. Mr. Leu will prepare a map outlining the proposed changes for distribution to the members. A final copy of the plan will be mailed with the map one week before the December meeting. Mr. Marshall stated that the issue of notification of individual landowners has not yet been resolved. Mr. Leu stated that at the present time the plan is to advertise the entire plan countywide.

The November 8 revised worksheet was reviewed to determine the changes yet to be voted on. The committee discussed the proposed changes on Sheet 1 (Major Trail Systems). Mr. Emerson suggested that Item 1 should be amended to add the segment from I-495 to the W & OD. Item 1 was also renamed the Dulles Toll Rd Trail rather than the Dulles Airport Access Rd Trail.

MOTION: Mr. Brodtman moved that Item 1 (Dulles Toll Rd Trail) be changed from some segments of bicycle trail to major paved trail along the length of the Dulles Toll Rd from the Loudoun County line to Hunter Mill Rd. Mr. Brugman seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

MOTION: Mr. Brodtman moved that Item 2 (I-495) be changed from no trail to major paved trail. Ms. Leser seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

MOTION: Ms. Leser moved that Item 3 (I-66) be changed from none to Major Paved trail. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

MOTION: Mr. Brugman moved that Items 4, 5 (Fairfax County Parkway), and 6 (Franconia Springfield Parkway) be changed from bicycle trail to Major Paved trail. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

Item 7 (Southern Railroad Trail) was discussed extensively. The proposed trail goes from stream valley to stream valley trail. The trail type may vary. It would connect segments of existing trails. Mr. Shannon expressed concern about adding major paved trail in the Fairfax Station Rd. area. Item 7 was tabled.

MOTION: Mr. Niedringhaus moved that Item 8 (Cross County Trail) be changed from mostly stream valley to Width/Surface Vary. Mr. McLaren seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

During the discussion of the Cross County Trail Ms. Leser identified similar concerns as were discussed regarding the Southern Railroad Trail. Ms. Leser asked that the committee reconsider the Southern Railroad Trail with the understanding that on-road bicycle routes would be used along Fairfax Station Rd. rather than off road trail.

MOTION: Ms. Leser moved that Item 7 be changed from none or various to on-road bicycle route/width/surface vary. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The vote was:

YES NO ABSTAINING
Mr. McLaren Mr. Emerson    Ms. Lanham
Ms. Leser Ms. Edwards Ms. Bennett
Mr. Wright Mr. Shannon Mr. Niedringhaus
Mr. Bryant    
Mr. Brugman    
Mr. Matos    
Mr. Brodtman    

The motion passed 7 - 3 - 3.

During the discussion of Item 9 Mr. Brugman asked about the color of the line for the W & OD on the current map. The color now designates minor paved trail due to being combined with the natural surface trail.

At this point Ms. Bennett began taking minutes.

The committee discussed changing the designation of Item 9 (W & OD. Item 9A was created. Item 9A is the W & OD from the Fairfax County line to I-495. It is to be designated Major Paved Trail. From I-495 to the Loudoun County line the W & OD is Major Paved with parallel natural surface or stonedust trail.

At this point, Ms. Leser requested that the committee consider an item in Sully District since she had to leave the meeting. The committee members agreed.

MOTION: Ms. Leser moved and Mr. Brugman seconded a motion to include a major paved trail along side of the Tri-County Parkway, should be parkway be constructed. The side of the road is not to be designated at this time since the parkway itself has yet to be planned. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

At his point Ms. Bennett asked Ms. Lanham to confirm that she had abstained on all votes thus far this evening. Ms. Lanham stated that she had abstained on all votes.

MOTION. Mr. Brugman moved that Items 10 (GW Parkway) and 11 (Dead Run) be changed to Major Paved trail. Mr. Niedringhaus seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

MOTION: Mr. Brugman moved that Item 12 (GW Parkway from Alexandria to Mt. Vernon) be designated Major Paved. Mr. Wright seconded the motion. The motion was approved unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

The Potomac Heritage Trail was discussed. Mr. Brugman questioned the building of two trails along the same general path. The Route 1 Bicycle Route has already been approved. The Potomac Heritage Trail may be redundant. Ms. Pate stated that the path of the Potomac Heritage Trail has not been determined so this discussion may be premature. Mr. Niedringhaus stated that the trail should be off-road in theory. Mr. Brugman and Mr. Shannon will discuss the Laurel Hills portion of the Potomac Heritage Trail at a future date.

MOTION: Mr. Brugman moved that Item 13 (Mt. Vernon Hwy, Woodlawn, Telegraph Rd, Lorton Rd) be designated The Route One Bicycle Route. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

Item 15 was postponed.

MOTION: Mr. Niedringhaus moved that Item 14 (Potomac Heritage National Scenic Trail from Loudoun County to Arlington County be designated Width/Surface Vary. Ms. Bennett seconded the motion. The vote was:

YES NO ABSTAINING
Mr. McLaren Mr. Brodtman   Ms. Lanham
Mr. Bryant Mr. Wright Mr. Brugman
Mr. Matos    
Mr. Emerson    
Ms. Edwards    
Mr. Shannon    
Mr. Niedringhaus      
Ms. Bennett    

MOTION: Mr. Niedringhaus moved that Item 16 (Bull Run -Occoquan Trail) be designated Width/Surface Vary. Mr. Brugman seconded the motion. The trail description was amended to read "Occoquan Regional Park". The vote was:

YES NO ABSTAINING
Mr. McLaren Mr. Brodtman Ms. Lanham
Mr. Bryant    
Mr. Matos    
Mr. Emerson    
Ms. Edwards    
Mr. Shannon    
Mr. Niedringhaus    
Ms. Bennett    
Mr. Wright    
Mr. Brugman    

The committee discussed the items on page 2 " On-Road Bike Routes". Since they had been discussed earlier, Items 5, 5A, 5B, (Rt 123), 6 (Westmoreland St.), Item 17, (Lee Hwy from Falls Church to Fairfax City), Item 18 (Lee Jackson Hwy), Item 18A (Little River Turnpike), and 20 (Dranesville Rd) were voted on together.

MOTION: Mr. Niedringhaus moved that , Items 5, 5A, 5B, (Rt 123), 6 (Westmoreland St.), Item 17, (Lee Hwy from Falls Church to Fairfax City), Item 18 (Lee Jackson Hwy), Item 18A (Little River Turnpike), and 20 (Dranesville Rd) be designated on the plan as on-road bicycle routes. Mr. Brugman seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

Mr. Brugman noted that Item 37 on Sheet 3 should be changed to show Telegraph Rd. as the starting point rather than Franconia Rd. The correction was made.

Mr. Bryant moved that Item 40 on Sheet 3 (Sleepy Hollow Rd.) be designated an on-road bicycle route. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously with Ms. Lanham abstaining.

Mr. McLaren discussed Sheet 13: Braddock District. He proposes bypasses on Braddock Rd that will enable bicycles to avoid the I-495 Interchange. This also allows crossings at SRR and Wakefield Park.

The committee discussed the items on Sheet 4: Dranesville District. A handout of Great Falls was distributed which outlines a proposed series of trails.

Sheet 5 was amended as follows:

  • Item 1 N. Georgetown Pike from Route 7 to Ellsworth Avenue will be designated Stonedust.
  • Item 2 N. Georgetown Pike from Ellsworth Ave to Innnsbrook will be designated Minor Paved.
  • Item 3 N. Georgetown Pike from Innsbruck to I-495 will be designated Stonedust.
  • Item 1a Walker Road from Deerfield Pond Dr. to Beech Mill Rd will be designated Stonedust.
  • Item 2a Walker Rd from Thunderhill Ct. to Deerfield Pond Dr. will be designated Minor Paved.
  • Item 3a Walker Rd from Colvin Run Rd. to Thunderhill Ct. will be designated Stonedust.
  • Item 4a Colvin Run Rd from Route 7 to Route 7 will be designated Stonedust.
  • Item 5 S. Georgetown Pike from Turner Farm East to Old Dominion Dr. will be designated Major Paved.

MOTION: Ms. Bennett moved to accept Sheet 5 as amended above. Mr. Niedringhaus seconded the motion. The vote was:

YES NO ABSTAINING
Mr. McLaren Mr. Brodtman    Ms. Lanham
Mr. Bryant    
Mr. Matos    
Mr. Emerson    
Ms. Edwards    
Mr. Shannon    
Mr. Niedringhaus    
Ms. Bennett    
Mr. Wright    
Mr. Brugman    

The motion passed 10 - 1 - 1.

MOTION: Mr. Wright moved that Springvale Road be designated an on-road bicycle route from Route 7 to Georgetown Pike. Mr. Brodtman seconded the motion. The vote was:

YES NO      ABSTAINING
Mr. McLaren      Ms. Lanham
Mr. Bryant   Mr. Niedringhaus
Mr. Matos    
Mr. Emerson    
Ms. Edwards    
Mr. Shannon    
Mr. Brodtman    
Ms. Bennett    
Mr. Wright    
Mr. Brugman    

Mr. Brugman brought up the issue of sidewalks. The committee will discuss this in the future.

The committee approved by consensus the proposed wording of the map of trails.

The meeting was adjourned.

Minutes submitted by Deborah Rimmer Leser, Secretary and Ann Bennett, Acting Secretary.

 


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