November 13, 2002 Minutes - Trails and Sidewalks Committee

Non-motorized Transportation Committee Meeting

November 13, 2002

Attendees: Don Emerson, Bruce Wright, Walter Brodtman, Sheng Leu, David Marshall, Leonard Wolfenstein, Wade Smith, Jenny Pate, Kevin Brugman, Bob Michie

Don called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m.


Bruce moved that the October meeting meetings be approved. Wade seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.

Countywide Trails Priorities

Leonard provided an updated list of trail projects that were evaluated by the committee in previous meetings. There was a discussion of how the list will be presented to the Board of Supervisors. Leonard mentioned that the list was being developed in response to the need for a 10-year capital plan based on the report of the Pedestrian Access Summit.

There was also a discussion regarding funding of projects. The goal of the countywide priority list is to fund larger, more significant trails. Funds are also needed for high priority local projects, and there is justification for having funds allocated by District for those needs.

Wade proposed additions to the Countywide priority list. Segments included an extension of the earlier Route 123 proposal, Lewinsville Rd, and Westmoreland. Kevin proposed adding Mason Neck. Don suggested adding Lee Highway and the Tysons to Springfield route (Gallows Rd, Annandale Rd, Backlick Rd, Amherst Rd). Bruce suggested adding Route 7. It was also suggested that the Old Keene Mill Rd segment be extended to the Fairfax County Parkway. All were approved by the committee.

There are 16 projects included in the final list. Some of the projects are so extensive that they should be separated into phases. The next step will be for DPWES to provide planning estimates for each project. The Board will want to see cost estimates. A suggestion was made to prioritize the list. There was a consensus that the projects presented to the Board should be listed in an implied priority order. The list will be presented to the Pedestrian Task Force once it is formed. Leonard will ask DPWES to provide a rough order-of-magnitude cost estimate for the projects.

Chair Report

Don mentioned that there will not be a December meeting unless a pressing issue arises.

Staff Report

Trail Funding - There was a discussion of possible options for funding projects. Some funds are needed in order to leverage outside funding such as TEA-21 grants that require local matching funds. There should be a way to use trail escrow funds for District-wide projects. As mentioned earlier, funds are also needed for high priority local projects.

Leonard handed out information about the December public hearing on TEA grants. Even though VDOT will likely not fund any new projects, the Board has decided to request proposals for new projects in the event that funding becomes available at a later date.

Trail Plan Update - Sheng Leu reported that the trail plan update will include a review of the Public Facilities Manual as it relates to the new classification of trails. The AASHTO standard width for paved trails is 10 feet whereas the County generally uses a width of 8 feet. Should the County comply with the AASHTO standard? There is no standard for stone dust trails, and the Great Falls Trailblazers have proposed one. Wade will discuss this issue at the January meeting. Jenny noted that several years ago a group developed recommendations to update the PFM, but nothing was implemented.

Old Business

Regional Trails - Leonard mentioned that the County proposed three regional trails based on a request by the Metropolitan Washington Council of Governments. The committee agreed to add the Cross County Trail to the list that contains Routes 1, 7, and 29.

Legislative Agenda - Leonard discussed the two items on the legislative agenda being proposed by the Board. 1. A better method for condemning land for priority trails and sidewalks, referred to as "quick take". 2. Require motorists to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks.

New Business

Wade suggested that the Committee invite someone to discuss pedestrian access to the proposed Dulles Corridor Rail stations, and the impact of the rail project on the trial network. When the Washington Metropolitan Area Transportation Authority (WMATA) plans and designs Metro stations, pedestrian access to the stations is not included. Their design extends only to the edge of the station property. Leonard mentioned that WMATA works under what is known as the "WMATA Compact" which guides their planning efforts. He will attempt to find out how the compact relates to planning for pedestrian access.

The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.


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